ON AIR: With Owen Episode 55 Featuring James Isilay – CEO of Cognism

Introducing our 55th episode of ON AIR: With Owen – our latest interview video series with honest conversation about scaling revenue, hosted by our Founder & CEO, Owen Richards.

Our 55th guest is James Isilay, CEO of Cognism.

Owen and James have an inspiring conversation around Cognism’s start-up journey, since being founded in 2015, to becoming one of the fastest growing SaaS companies in the world.

Including:
– Lessons learned from Cognism’s start-up journey, since being founded in 2015
– How having an experienced mentor from the get-go can keep your start-up alive
– Cognism’s outbound strategy and how it has played a key role in their growth
– How a strategy evolves over time with bringing key people into a business
– Go-to-market strategy: the best strategies and channels for scaling a business
– At which stage should you have certainty and start to rely on outbound metrics?
– Why James believes the phone is the most effective tool you can use in outbound sales
– What motivates James to keep going 6 years into the journey

Quality or Quantity – Which Is More Important In SDR Activity?

When you’re making sales, what’s better? One well-researched and thought-out sales call or twenty hastily made ones?

We’ll bet that you went for the well-researched sales call.

Many SDRs agree that quality counts when it comes to generating leads. However, there is a fine balancing act between the number of calls you make and how targeted they are.

Let’s look at whether quality or quantity counts the most when it comes to sales.

How sales has changed over the past twenty years

At the turn of the new century, outbound sales enquiries were a lot more straightforward.

Phone calls were the sales channel of choice for most SDRs, and while the internet was a thing, many people didn’t have email addresses.

Some salespeople even sent pitches by fax!

Fast forward to 2022, and there is a lot more noise in sales than ever before.

The average person gets between 120 and 130 emails a day, social media is used as a sales channel, and we’re bombarded with ads all day long.

This makes it a lot harder to stand out when it comes to generating leads.

What does this mean for SDRs? It means…

  1. They have to pitch to as many people as they can in the hope that some will respond with interest
  2. They have to choose the people most likely to respond and send them a relevant pitch

But is a) or b) the right approach?

Quality can help save time

For most businesses, it pays to have a qualitative approach toward leads.

After all, it’s easier to call ten people and set up two meetings than to call 100 people and set up twenty meetings. The conversion rate may be the same, but your SDRs have spent their time more wisely.

However…

Spending time on a pitch doesn’t always make it high-quality by default

A short while ago, our Founder & CEO, Owen Richards, received a personalised Spotify playlist from a salesperson, with individual song titles requesting a meeting.

The technique was impressive and certainly got our attention at Air Marketing HQ. However, the product being sold was just not relevant to our needs – so it was a no from us.

We estimated that it must have taken about 30 minutes to build the playlist – a lot of time when you’re trying to make sales.

16 individual playlists for prospective customers, and that’s the working day gone!

Many SDRs think that spending time on a pitch automatically means it will result in a quality lead, but this isn’t true.

Any prospecting you do needs to be:

  1. Well-researched, ensuring that your prospect is a good fit for your product or service
  2. Relevant to the needs of your prospect
  3. Personalised towards your prospect. Over 70% of people now expect personalisation from businesses they work with

While the Spotify playlist was indeed personalised, it wasn’t something of interest to us.

Researching a prospective business doesn’t necessarily have to be time-consuming. Use the data you already have in your CRM system. Use social media to find the right person to talk to. Put criteria in place to quickly eliminate any unlikely buyers.

And most importantly… pick up the phone!

A phone call is more personal than an email or social media message, lets you steer the conversation and means you can move on quickly if you get a ‘no.’

Over half of senior-level buyers prefer to do business over the phone.

When quantity counts

As the old saying goes, ‘sales is a numbers game.’

While quality is important, there are circumstances when quantity can be the best approach.

If you’re selling a time-sensitive product or service or have a lot of competition, you may need to move quickly. In this situation, quantity is the right strategy.

Quantity can also help you move to a qualitative approach in the future. For example, let’s say you’ve recently launched a new business but aren’t 100% sure who your target audience is yet. You can use the data you’ve collected to see who is most likely to convert moving forward.

In conclusion: Quality or quantity – which is right for you?

There’s an assumption in sales that focusing on quality is a good approach and focusing on quantity is a bad approach.

However, this isn’t true. You can target lots of people and see success, as well as target a handful of people and get no leads at all.

If you opt to go for quantity, you need to make sure it’s the right approach for your needs.

If you decide to focus on quality, you need to make the research you do count.

Take the pressure out of generating leads with Air Marketing

If you’re struggling to get leads for your sales team, we can help.

Our skilled team of SDRs provide lead generation services and can fill your pipeline with warm opportunities that are ready to buy.

Contact our team today and see how we can save you time and resources.

ON AIR: With Owen Episode 54 Featuring Tom Lavery – Founder & CEO at Jiminny

Introducing our 54th episode of ON AIR: With Owen – our latest interview video series with honest conversation about scaling revenue, hosted by our Founder & CEO, Owen Richards.

Our 54th guest is Tom Lavery, Founder & CEO at Jiminny.

Owen and Tom discuss the learnings that come from the first five years of a start-up business.

Including:
– What does it feel like to be a founder in the early days of a start-up?
– Why do so many startups fail?
– What Jiminny got right and what Tom would do differently if he were starting out again
– Is there a snowball effect once you get past £1-2m revenue?
– Is there a bigger margin for error, the bigger a company gets?
– Product development; sales or people – at what stages should you invest in these elements?
– Operational, tactical or strategic – is there a right balance for a Founder?
– When is the right time to let go of certain responsibilities as a Founder?

ON AIR: With Owen Episode 53 Featuring Mike Hann – EVP of Revenue at fabric

Introducing our 53rd episode of ON AIR: With Owen – our latest interview video series with honest conversation about scaling revenue, hosted by our Founder & CEO, Owen Richards.

Our 53rd guest is Mike Hann, EVP of Revenue at fabric.

Owen and Mike discuss the notion of sales leaders adapting to business expansion, by moving away from first line management, towards a more strategic approach, in pursuit of revenue growth.

Including:
– Introduction to Mike and the story of fabric
– What effecting revenue looks like in the early days of a start-up, and how that adapts and changes over time
– How aspiring sales leaders can benefit from the experience of being in more deals for longer
– How being a remote leader can add to the challenge of effecting revenue
– Which strategies to adopt to successfully expand operations into new territories
– Ways to shape new, less-experienced SDRs to adopt the culture of the business
– The challenges of hiring fresh talent remotely, in a fast-growing business
– Why revenue leaders are choosing to do smaller off-sites, more often

ON AIR: With Owen Episode 52 Featuring Lauren Wright – VP of Revenue at Demodesk

Introducing our 52nd episode of ON AIR: With Owen – our latest interview video series with honest conversation about scaling revenue, hosted by our Founder & CEO, Owen Richards.

Our 52nd guest is Lauren Wright, VP of Revenue at Demodesk.

Owen and Lauren discuss remote, hybrid and in-office working, and whether there is a ‘right’ blend for a sales organization.

Including:
– The longevity of remote working – will it last forever?
– How we treat in-office time in 2022 vs. how we treated it prior to the pandemic
– Why leaders have a responsibility to be present, just as much as SDRs
– How to manage push-back from your sales team about returning to the office
– Did employers react to the pandemic and switch to remote working too quickly?
– How remote recruiting increased the talent pool during the pandemic
– Tools we can use utilize to keep transparency around remote team performance
– The euphoria of stepping onto a sales floor, and how Demodesk have re-created the experience in a virtual world

ON AIR: With Owen Episode 51 Featuring Andy Champion – GM, EMEA at Highspot

Introducing our 51st episode of ON AIR: With Owen – our latest interview video series with honest conversation about scaling revenue, hosted by our Founder & CEO, Owen Richards.

Our 51st guest is Andy Champion, GM for EMEA at Highspot.

Owen and Andy discuss how creating a culture of coaching puts a deliberate focus on helping people to thrive at what they do.

Including:
– The main benefits of creating a culture of coaching
– The impact good coaching can have on talent retention rates
– Types of activities that fall under the category of coaching
– When to invest in coaching & how to measure it over a short period of time
– How to increase & measure the level of engagement with SDRs
– The optimum percentage of an SDR’s time that should be spent learning
– The basic tenets of coaching: what good and bad looks like
– How to mentor your team effectively & develop your own style of leadership
– Stimulating organic peer-to-peer coaching
– Individual contributor’s responsibility to self-coach & how leaders can encourage this.

ON AIR: With Owen Episode 50 Featuring Morgan Ingram – Director of Sales Execution & Evolution at JB Sales

Introducing our 50th episode of ON AIR: With Owen – our latest interview video series with honest conversation about scaling revenue, hosted by our Founder & CEO, Owen Richards.

Our 50th guest is Morgan Ingram, Director of Sales Execution & Evolution at JB Sales Training. He explains how, in order to break through the noise, you have to be different to the noise, and provides his tips on how to achieve this.

Morgan and Owen also discuss:
• The best channel for outreach (in Morgan’s opinion)
• Cold calling: The negative feelings towards it vs. the data which validates it still works
• The things you could be doing to break through the noise and set yourself apart from the rest
• How to encourage SDRs to take responsibility for their own learning journey
• Pros & cons of quick sales hacks vs. playing the long game
• The benefits of time blocking and what to focus on
• The components & framework of a successful cold call
• How pauses during a cold call allow you to navigate the call better
• Cold call intro’s that answer the two most important questions: Who are you and what do you want?

LIVE Presentation: How To Project ROI When Building An Outbound SDR Team

We’re hosting our final live event as part of the 2021/22 annual content series, around ‘setting up an outbound sales team’.

In April 2021, we announced that we will be going live every month for the next 12 months, chatting about all topics relating to outbound sales and the stages of building a team.

For the finale of the season, we’re doing something a little bit different. Our Founder & CEO, Owen Richards, and our Sales Director, Marco Alfano-Rogers, will be hosting a live presentation, walking you through a complete ROI forecast from beginning to end, including how we measure.

Get ideas, inspiration and advice from Owen and Marco, who will discuss their own experiences in the field and open the floor to questions from the audience.

Topic:
How To Project ROI When Building An Outbound SDR Team

Agenda:
1. Step-by-step process of an ROI forecast
2. Explaining the measurements of ROI
3. Questions from the audience

Who is it for?
Founders
Sales Leaders
Revenue Leaders

ON AIR: With Owen Episode 49 Featuring Sunil Kumar – Co-Founder & CEO at Trainyo

Introducing our 49th episode of ON AIR: With Owen – our latest interview video series with honest conversation about scaling revenue, hosted by our Founder & CEO, Owen Richards.

Our 49th guest is Sunil Kumar, Co-Founder & CEO of the successful start-up Trainyo – an SDR bootcamp offering a training and placement programme for people from all backgrounds to start their career in tech sales.

Sunil gives us insight into how the business has seen so much success in such a short period of time, what they have prioritized, and what he considers the most important element to focus on, in the next 6-12 months, to maintain that success.

Including:
– An introduction to Sunil, Trainyo and the services they offer
– Trainyo’s journey so far and the learnings we can all take from it
– What the planning phase of a start-up looks like; the things you need to consider and executing the plan
– The emotions and feelings commonly felt as a Founder or CEO of a start-up in the early stages
– How to build a brand in the community when you are a small company with very few voices
– Tips for producing good content and communication techniques Trainyo use internally to ensure their content is consistently fresh and creative
– The challenges of hiring and onboarding for a start-up, and what to prepare for
– What to look for in people when recruiting for new roles, and the common threads that Sunil has identified as important in his team

Sales Confidence B2B SaaS Sales & Revenue Leaders In-Person Event | 23rd March 2022 | Co-Hosted By Owen Richards

Sales Confidence return with their first in-person Sales & Revenue Leaders Event of 2022, on the 23rd March!

Hosting is Founder & CEO of Sales ConfidenceJames Ski, accompanied by our Founder & CEO, Owen Richards, and Charles Tristram, Founder of Auxano Group.

Who is it for?
• Sales Leaders (CROs, Sales VPs, Sales Managers)
• Revenue Leaders (Marketing, Sales Ops and Enablement)
• SaaS Founders and Investors

Why watch?
Learn from the top business and sales leaders responsible for some of the fastest growing SaaS companies in the UK and Europe, and achieve the competitive edge necessary to accelerate your own growth and success.

Enjoy 7 minute talks from peers leading the way in the industry, who share the processes and tools that can help you to navigate the fundamentals of modern-sales best practise and optimise maximum revenue outcomes.

Including:
Tom Lavery – CEO & Founder at Jiminny
Anup Khera – General Manager at Attentive
Mike Hann – EVP of Revenue at fabric
Luci Heather – SVP Sales & Growth at Sweepr Technologies
Andy Champion – GM of EMEA at Highspot